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  Is it common to,,,

  by label licker in

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  have a local needs on apostasy, have everyone shun you, have no shepherding calls since you left for over a year, and now a jc tomorrow evening????????.

  spoke to branch committee as well as co and they said to go and if we were treated unfairly then to call the co. don't get it.

  the co would have known about the local needs talk on apostasy and says if we were treated unfairly to call him.

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  Don't go ,period. What do you honestly think is going to happen ?
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  Fed up with the way JWs treat those who can no longer believe

  by hotspur in

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  my favourite uncle died about two years ago (non-witness) and my mother couldn't tell me .

  earlier today i went round to the cathedral square of the city where i work for some lunch and i had the misfortune to sit near to an ol'boy witnessing to some people who were too polite to respond.

  he kept going on about truth.

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  Hotspur I am so sorry the way you have been treated . I wonder if more of us will be seeing this kind of treatment too . What happened to necessary family business ???
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  Newly wed UBM and soon to meet JW in-laws

  by UBM101 in

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  i have been lurking here for a couple of years.

  my hubby (inactive & some doubts) and i were just married and i'll be going to his place to meet his family (pretty much dubs).

  they seem to be friendly and excited to meet me, and i kind of had agreed to attend the kingdumb hall meeting once (in my life time, yep, that's the agreement) and also meeting an elder who brain-washed my hubby during his teen.

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  Handle yourself with confidence in your own belief system . They are looking for someone easy to influence ,pliable . If you are firm in your own beliefs and not searching for answers it makes it harder for them .

  I think it is time you and your husband had a true heart to heart talk about what he plans to do about any manipulation moves on their part . Please don't give any false hopes .Hopefully they will respect your rights if you are up front and honest from the get go .

  My brothers husband was Df'd when he married a woman that was Catholic. When he was reinstated she attended a few meetings and of course was love bombed by the JW family . She told me the first time she met the other sister in law she was offered a personal bible study ,and after a few visits she let them know she would never become a JW ....that side of the family just walked away from her and never gave her the time of day afterwards . On the other hand my husband and I accepted her for herself ,and have treated her as family when we were witnesses and now that we are not . So people are people and it will just depend on what kind of people his family turns out to be .
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  First post venting

  by Freethinking76 in

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  hello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !

  i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..

  my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!

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  FreeThinking , Welcome and vent all you want ! My advice to you is : Now that you have moved never go back ! It is a clean slate for you now ,and your mate has the right idea .If anyone you can not avoid asks, tell them your mate no longer will allow the children to attend .

  Remember this very important point The Jehovah's Witnesses have no power over you ,only what you allow them to have . You owe NO ONE answers to why you have quit attending ,even the Elders .

  You can read many experiences here on how other people have moved on away from the Watchtower control . Give yourself time to figure out who you are ,what interests you would like to pursue ,and get busy living !

  This place is a wonderful place to vent with others that understand ,and a way to unravel the mind numbing nonsense the Wathtower subjected us to .

  Good luck on your journey !
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  Missing my Mountains

  by jgnat in

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  here's an album of my recent artwork.

  the watercolors i whipped up in the last few days, as a distraction.. https://plus.google.com/photos/101031800144975623378/albums/5897865355980960561.

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  Beautiful work !
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  Our Blondie Has A Torn Memiscus.

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  blondie posted her watchtower comments for today and her last paragraph was asking for help, suggestions.

  she is in pain from her knee injury, is on steroids and possibly going to have surgery.. she is asking if anyone here, has had the same problem, and if so, what did they do and how was the outcome?.

  just lois.

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  Blondie , Give me a call if you still have my number !

  I tore the meniscus in my knee last summer and waited until November to have surgery ,DON't wait that long if surgery is suggested . It has taken mine almost eight months to finally feel normal again (surgery relieved the worst of the pain immediately ) but getting the achiness to go away has taken time , i hear everyone is different .
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  During Your IN Years If You Had Anointed At Your Hall, What Were They Like?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  the scoop of humanity at one khall, the anointed ones" were a mixed group.. one bro, h. had been in for eons.

  he was df for adultery, back in the day when they would announce your sin openly from the platform to everyone.

  he just kept on coming and partaking until he was reinstated.

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  The people I knew in my childhood KH that claimed to be annointed were all very elderly ,and had been JWs a long time .They all had very kind ,humble personalities. In the hall we last attended someone told me there is a Brother now partaking ,he is a few yrs older than me....he is known to be a jackass . Quick tempered and quite boisterous . I can not even imagine him representing himself as Christs brother
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  During Your IN Years If You Had Anointed At Your Hall, What Were They Like?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  the scoop of humanity at one khall, the anointed ones" were a mixed group.. one bro, h. had been in for eons.

  he was df for adultery, back in the day when they would announce your sin openly from the platform to everyone.

  he just kept on coming and partaking until he was reinstated.

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  When I was a child there was a couple of people in our hal that partook at the Memorial . One Older Brother I knew quite well . Went to his Book study and he worked in service with my Mom and I . He was always very nice and humble . Soft spoken and kind . When I was 15 I got private reproof and was not suppose to answer at meetings ,but at the book study he called on me to read a scripture ....I knew I was not suppose to so I shook my head NO. Afterwards he approached me and apologized profusly , I really liked him . Then he fell on some ice in the parking lot and had a stroke . When I visited him in the hospital his wife said as soon as he heard my voice he turned his head towards me and smiled ....it was the only response he had shown since the stroke ....that always touched my heart . He died a few days later .

  According to my Mom another couple in the hall quit associating because they said this same Brother had treated them harshly ......I could never understand how that could be ,but it is like everything else ....just depends on the circumstances .
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  My first talk with JWs at the door while on vacation

  by troubled mind in

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  this was the first time in almost eight years i have had a conversation with a jw .

  we were on vacation last week at my son and daughter in laws home .

  one morning the doorbell rang and as i went to answer it my daughter in law said she thought it was witnesses .

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  This was the first time in almost eight years I have had a conversation with a JW . We were on vacation last week at my son and daughter in laws home . One morning the doorbell rang and as I went to answer it my daughter in law said she thought it was Witnesses . My husband said ," Don't answer it !" (He always thinks I am going to go balistic on them , whatever )

  So this very nice pair of women are waiting on the steps as I shut the door behind me . The first one states they are JWs and that they were expecting my DIL to answer the door . I told them who I was and that i was visiting . She went on about how they knew my DIL had been raised in a Witness household and how great they thought that was . The sister talking mentioned how she raised her kids in "the truth' and that when they were grown they could decide for themselves to be Witnesses or not ...that was the great thing about their religion ..... WELL I NEARLY CHOCKED RIGHT THERE

  However I held my tongue and just said ," Well yeah I guess they may have a choice ....as long as they don't mind the severe consequences they may suffer for that choice " Her partner kind of shook her head in agreement ,but the one speaking kind of let it go over her head ...

  Then I began to tell them how I too was raised a JW ,for over 44 yrs I was associated with JWs . I also told them many of the reasons why I no longer am one .

  This sister actually said " You can believe whatever you want as a JW especially in your own home ,it is between you and Jehovah " ......I said 'well that certainly is not what the Organization teaches in fact the Org teaches you NEED them in order to even approach Jesus because they are the mediator between you and him . She totally disagreed on that point and I said well maybe you should do some research on what the ORg really teaches on that point .'

  .....I told her I no longer believe in God and she wanted to share a scripture ....??? That makes no sense to me, I said 'no thanks '. She was sure Jer. 29 :11 would have some magical effect upon my mind .

  Before they left I told them about all the changes in belief I had seen in my lifetime such as blood fractions ,1914 , ect . I asked them how do you feel about it now that the numbers of those partaking has increased and the society now says the FDS is only those on the Governing body ???? The one sister said I was misinformed ,but the other said, "you mean the information coming out in the July Watchtower ? " " Yes ,the new opinion, I said .

  I told them I would never return to a manmade organization . For years I felt not good enough and oppressed . Now I am happier than ever before ,Why would I change that ? They suddenly needed to leave for a Bible study .....

  It was good to be just nice and friendly ,but get my point across . They were really nice women not haughty or pretenscious ....had they been I am sure the discussion may have gone a whole different way .

  wonder if they stop by again what will be said to my Daughter in law .
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  Feeling numb and alone

  by DeWandelaar in

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  since some time i post here on this forum... i am always willing to help people or to express my opinion if it helps someone.... i have already posted something about myself but i haven't told much about my history.. i am married with a nice wife and i have three kids (two of my own and a stephdaughter).

  since a year i do not go to meetings and i unofficially stopped with the "truth".

  i had a meeting with some elders expressing my concerns with the teachings and with the slave.

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  You are not alone .... I am so sorry for all the loss you have experienced in such a short period of time . Take some time for yourself to heal emotionally . You may not realize how much of what you are currently going through may be based on the fact you are still in a grieving process over your mother and Sister. I am sorry your Dad has not handled the grief ,maybe it is not too late to work things out with him for mutual support . A local support group could be beneficial too .

  As for fading .... it is NOT the easier road . It does make you feel in limbo because you ARE ! You are being pulled in many different ways and pretending to be something you are not . Really give this route some thought and decide, is it truly the best way for you ?

  In regards to your family life ,my advice would be to seek family counseling . Or in the very least begin a new way to bring the family together . When my kids were little we had very little money ,so we found every free thing there was to do with kids . We went camping ,found every local park to explore . We found zoos and museums and special community events geared towards families . This helped strengthen our family and gave us time together to explore interests . When you are drawing away from a community based religion such as the JWs you need to replace that sense of belonging with something else . Look for clubs or interests to join that will give you that feeling of being apart of something else and a way to meet new people-friends to introduce into your life .

  Good luck with whatever you decide ,and remember you are not alone . Someone to talk to is only a keystroke away .